The Arizona Sentinel

April 15, 2014

No Govenor or County Sheriff should ever allow any outside agency federal or otherwise to engage in any agressive action toward State /County Citizens….

Filed under: My Posts — thearizonasentinel @ 7:26 pm

Note: Also included with the email I am forwarding are “papers addressing the issue of the Supremacy Clause and federal law enforcement authority.” Here are excerpts from the attached 4/9/14 correspondence written by Ramona Morrison (Member, Board of Agriculture) that was addressed to Mr. Jim Barbee (Board of Agriculture, Nevada Department of Agriculture) — that provides background on the Bundy Ranch (highlights added):

In the early 1990′s, Clark County ranchers became victims of the threatened listing of the desert tortoise under the ESA. The BLM proceeded to manage for tortoise without an official listing adding economically devastating and physically impossible terms and conditions to the grazing permit to drive those ranchers out of business and off their Constitutionally protected grazing preferences. Mr. Bundy chose a different course, refused to sign another grazing permit that was designed to break him, and didn’t pay grazing permit fees.

A few short years after the ranchers were gone the BLM began selling the same land to developers. The BLM insisted cattle couldn’t possibly cohabitate with tortoises, as they had for over 100 years, because they may step on tortoise eggs. However, the BLM was apparently unconcerned about the effect excavators and paving equipment would have on tortoise “habitat.” In other words, the tortoise under the ESA was merely a political weapon to forcibly clear title on federally managed lands without compensation.

Fast Forward to today with the looming sage grouse listing under the ESA. A lot of other ranchers are about to get to walk a thousand miles in Mr. Bundy’s shoes. If the BLM and USFS continues on their current path, it is likely there will be future impoundments. Therefore, the Department and Board needs to be very clear on who has what authority.

Mr. Bundy owns a ranch which has vested right to water and forage, as well as improvements dating back to the late 1880′s. Those rights are recognized and protected by every land law passed by Congress including the Taylor Grazing Act. Mr. Bundy has attempted to assert those rights, albeit in a manner that was ill-advised and in my opinion would not survive in the courts. However, his underlying case is very similar factually to Hage v. U.S. and U.S. V. Hage. . . .

[For more on Hage v. U.S., go here: http://americanstewards.us/our-history/22-our-history/78-historysort ]

Debbie

On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:32 AM, [deleted for privacy] wrote:

http://thewesterner.blogspot.com/2014/04/email-from-ramona-hage-morrison.html

THE WESTERNER
Tuesday, April 08, 2014
Email from Ramona Hage Morrison commenting on the Bundy situation – Wayne Hage Jr is at the Bundy Ranch

Government vehicles and personnel outside of the Bundy ranch / Cliven and Carol Bundy

My brother Wayne Hage drove to the Bundy Ranch last night with a friend to provide emotional support to Cliven during this federal raid on his ranch and encourage them to keep a cool head. However, I am very concerned about the safety of Wayne and the Bundy family.

Here is the problem. The BLM and BLM attorney out of Sacramento, Nancy Zahedi, are running this entire law enforcement action. The Sheriff has told Mr. Bundy he is staying “neutral”. As you are aware, every land law passed by Congress has reserved civil and criminal jurisdiction to the states unless they have a specific session of exclusive jurisdiction by the State legislature under Article I, Sec. 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution. The lands at issue here are held in “proprietorial interest only” jurisdiction, wherein the federal government has the same status as “any other land owner.”

I spoke with the Bundy’s and my brother this morning. Here is what is happening on the ground according to them. They said over 40 government vehicles including BLM, Park Service, Homeland Security and FBI passed by their property this morning, not counting rent-a-cowboys, and other bureaucrats that are elsewhere on the ranch. They understand from a Mesquite city police officer and their personal friend (whose department has been ordered by Clark Co. Sheriff Gillespie to stand down) that the Bundy’s should not be deceived; that the BLM has hired special forces wearing BLM gear to run this operation. Also, at a private airport near the Bundy ranch, photos were taken of a military helicopter landing and military men in full military gear disembarking. This possibly invokes the Treaty of Posse Comitatus. The Bundy’s say their ranch is completely surrounded by federal forces on the hills around the ranch.

Clearly the Clark Co. Sheriff has committed malfeasance of office by allowing federal employees impersonating law enforcement officers to breach the peace in his county and not running this impoundment himself under state law. I sit on the Board of Agriculture and we have brand inspectors situated in the middle of this fracas for whom I am concerned. However, as far is Congress is concerned, I believe the time has come to open investigative hearings into these land management agencies and their widespread unlawful law enforcement activities.

My questions are these: Under what authority are these bureaucrats receiving appropriations for law enforcement guns, equipment and manpower? Under what authority are they conducting these activities? These same questions apply to the USFWS raid on Gibson Guitar. As you are well aware, Congress has only granted federal law enforcement authority in very limited instances.

On the local level we obviously need Sheriffs like Sheriff DeMeo in the neighboring county of Nye to stand up to these thugs. But the reality is in the west that the lowest level federal employee can waltz into practically any office from Nevada’s Governor on down and claim they have supremacy under the Supremacy Clause and Territorial Clause and our local officials will most often submit, including the Governor. We for all practical purposes have a territorial governor, a sheriff who instead of serving at the pleasure of the folks who elected him, serves at the orders of the BLM. It goes downhill from there. These federal agencies need to be disarmed. Unless the United States and individual states intend to continue down this slippery slope of acquiescing to an unelected, armed, federal police force operating under an unlawful assertion of power, then I believe we had better get control of this situation soon. We need everyone to follow the law INCLUDING federal employees. These out-of-control federal land management bureaucrats are an obvious place to start.

I have attached several papers addressing the issue of the Supremacy Clause and federal law enforcement authority. I have additional information on this subject which I am happy to provide.

Regards,
Ramona Hage Morrison

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Americans have had enough of this tyrannical government. Go argue with Putin leave the states alone!

When elected law enforcement fails their oath of office. Including Governors tyranny is the result. Federal agencies must be removed from all 50 states.

April 14, 2014

BLM is an Agent of Foreign Principle? What a screwed up Government!

Filed under: My Posts — Tags: , — thearizonasentinel @ 12:14 am

Received this today, Kinda sheds a whole new light on things!

Subject: BLM is Agent of Foreign Principle?

This was just posted on Facebook by an active participant on the Charlotte Iserbyt Fan page:

FYI:

I just got this from another astute friend, I am an education today.

Carol Ray Ray Eder BLM, is actually classified as an: “Agent of Foreign Principle”, under the…
intergovernmental Personnel Act.
Irish: THEY ARE NOT US GOVERNMENT THEY ARE FOREIGN AGENTS IN DISGUISE, THEY LACK AUTHORITY, JURISDICTION, CONSENT and they are causing Millions in damages not only the Rancher Bundy, But to every man woman and child of the US..
42 U.S. Code Chapter 62 – INTERGOVERNMENTAL PERSONNEL PROGRAM

The BLM is under the Intergovernmental Personnel Program
42 U.S. Code § 4702 – Administration of authorities
The authorities provided by this chapter shall be administered in such manner as
(1) to recognize fully the rights, powers, and responsibilities of State and local governments, and
(2) to encourage innovation and allow for diversity on the part of State and local governments in the design, execution, and management of their own systems of personnel administration.
Operating Outside of Their Scope
42 U.S. Code § 4721 – Declaration of purpose
The purpose of this subchapter is to assist State and local governments to strengthen their staffs by improving their personnel administration.

* Notice Land Grabbing,Theft and Terrorism is not in their Job description

April 12, 2014

Government Corruption , Remove all federal agencies from our states.

This is lengthy but there is some really valuable information in it.

Jim Stone’s web site had been previously hacked so rather than send people to his site, I copied the article, with his permission and I’m including it here.

If you are concerned about losing access to our forest land, or concerned about your water, this is important.

http://jimstonefreelance.com/

BLOCKBUSTER: Straight from a rancher’s mouth

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Immediate family friend of the Bundy’s tells it all in a mail sent to Jimstonefreelance.com

This is the jackpot of details you have never seen anywhere else, and if you did, they originated here, spread it around, ARCHIVE AND POST! (please link back to here when posting elsewhere)

A Rancher TELLS ALL:

B Hunt wrote:

I live in SW Utah. I grew up on a ranch less than 100 miles from the Bundy’s ranch. My father knows Cliven Bundy. I know Cliven’s son Ryan. This is not a hoax, it is an action of force by the BLM.

The BLM was going to sell the cattle at one of the smallest cattle markets in Utah. No cattle markets in Nevada would take the cattle without a properly signed brand inspection (which the BLM cannot obtain without Cliven Bundy’s signature). The BLM paid the owner of the Utah cattle market $300,000 to do the sale (‘R’ Livestock Connection in Monroe, Utah, owned by one Scott G. Robbins, according to the Utah Business Entity Search). Utah Governor Herbert stepped in and forbid them from bringing the cattle into Utah without the legally required health and brand inspections (which again, require Bundy’s signature) and that no feral cattle are allowed to be imported at all (per Utah statute). Because Bundy claims ownership over maybe 350-500 head of branded cattle, the other 500-700 estimated head of cattle would all be considered feral. BLM officially backed off, but we suspect they are still secretly shipping them through Utah without any permission to do so, to “private” buyers in Colorado. The contract cowboys that the BLM hired to do the roundup are from Sampson Livestock in Meadow, Utah (traitors one and all).

From what I understand, Cliven Bundy owns both the Water Rights and Grazing Rights to all of the land where his cattle run. If Bundy failed to use them, the Grazing Rights would revert to the BLM and would be retired, while the Water Rights would revert to the State of Nevada, likely to be sold to the highest bidder (which would probably be a bidding war between mineral companies that are behind this action with the BLM and the City of Las Vegas which is thirsty for water and has had multiple attempts to buy water–through eminent domain from Utah farmers and ranchers–from Utah, which were all blocked by the Utah Legislature and Utah Governor Herbert). Chances are, the BLM has already filed a claim on the water rights so that they can sell to the highest bidder (instead of the state) and are trying to get the cattle off to show that Bundy cannot use the water beneficially (much like what the US Forest Service and BLM both tried to do to Wayne Hage).

Now, for Cliven Bundy, he’s not fighting this for his cattle or his own livelihood. He recognizes that he will probably die before this fight is over. He has said multiple times that he is fighting this to wake people up about the tyranny of the Federal Government and also to help wake up the western states about getting the rights to their own land back from the federal government, which has repeatedly shut down ranchers and closed off land. (MO = 1st, get all the ranchers, farmers, Native Americans, and foresters that use the land for positive, sustainable production off of the land; 2nd, grab up all the resources; 3rd, close off the lands to public access including camping, hiking, horseback riding, hunting, fishing, boating, shooting, etc; 4th, sell off the resources to the highest bidder regardless of what that will do to the land, the local environment, or the economy; 5th, collect royalties on the resources in perpetuity; 6th, reduce and eliminate all SLS and PILT payments to the states, impoverishing them beyond belief.)

Anyway, thanks for posting about this. It is important for us to be able to raise the appropriate resistance.

My Response:

Thank you for sending your valuable insight. This contained the details we were all missing.

From this we can now firmly conclude:

1. The BLM’s actions are not only flatly illegal, they are unlawful, and not only unlawful, they are so unlawful that it took bribing someone with a $300,000 payoff to get them to accept stolen cattle from a Government agency. I do not think that could be topped ANYWHERE else in the world, other than with something like a Mexican drug cartel.

So we have a clear cut case of unlawful and prosecutable actions by the BLM in this case.

2. The real goal is to shut down public access to these lands. Obviously Cliven Bundy was not a jerk, and he let people go back there to explore. I myself have done a LOT of back country exploring, and noticed in the early 2000′s that they closed down all the back roads about a half mile before the destination they used to go to to discourage people from exploring the wilderness. Rather than drive the whole way, you had to get out and walk a considerable distance to scenes such as Swazy’s leap, Paul Bunyans Wood Pile, and practically anywhere else you would want to go while out 4 Wheeling. And in the desert sun, that long of a walk was usually tough to do. This resulted in these types of locations no longer being visited, which effectively equaled a shut down.

3. The motives are for profit. Rather than manage the lands responsibly, the BLM is stealing it from it’s rightful holders via corrupt actions and legal loop holes, and selling it off to corporate interests. This is cold hard proof that America is not a democracy, or more importantly a Republic, it is in fact a facist dictatorship where corruption rules and rights, freedom and honor are irrelevant

The BLM killed hundreds of desert tortoises on purpose

They say they had to kill them because they did not have the funds to care for them. Here are two really good solutions to that “problem.” 1. Just take them out in the desert and turn them loose. -OR- 2. They could have taken the three million dollars they said the Bundy raid will cost them, CALLED OFF THE RAID, and SAVED THE TURTLES with that three million. If they had three million to destroy Bundy, they had it for the turtles as well but did not use it for that because tyranny comes first.

Steeped in arrogance and incompetence, once again a Federal agency fails to see the obvious. Or perhaps they do see it but they could care less about nature and instead operate as the enforcement arm of a band of high ranking thugs.

The truth, in the words of a Bundy

Mike Combs By SHIREE BUNDY COX:

I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much [more] to it, but here it is in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887, around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use are called preemptive rights.

Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges, while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment, which was to be used to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM, until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead, they began using these money’s against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out, with their own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a pittance, he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes.

In essence, the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well, when buying him out didn’t work, they used the endangered species card. You’ve already heard about the desert tortoise. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now they’re desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything they’re doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America.

Now you may be saying,”how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.

Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See, even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are, they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Auction and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner, as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?

Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks

Bundy Ranch is REAL

UPDATE: The Nevada Militia has shown up at the Bundy ranch to kick the BLM out. The governor of Nevada celebrated the arrival of the militia and spoke in support of the Bundys, issuing the statement “No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans”.

As I suspected, the Bundy’s ranch is on land that the Fed wants to mine for minerals and they need the water that is reserved for the cattle to conduct mining operations. The land has been assesed to have high grade deposits of minerals that are good for military applications and the Fed wants the Bundys out of the way. Adding to the problem is that much of the land is prime real estate, and the Fed wants it to sell it off. EVEN MORE DAMNING is that the best and most prime real estate is actually owned by the Bundy’s which means the BLM is trespassing on much of it anyway. It is neither state nor federal land. There have been numerous attempts to kick the Bundy’s off their property so a tycoon can come in and put a residential development in. So as is the norm, a turtle or fly or slug or whatever has been used as an excuse for an eviction, when multibillion dollar corporations wanting the land for mining operations and real estate tycoons wanting the most prime areas are the real reason, and the muscle of the government most likely bought by campain contributions is being used to get the Bundy’s off the land after the Bundy’s refused really good offers for it from potential buyers.

The BLM is getting so anxious to get the cows off the land that they are running many of them to death, and that is why the backhoes are there to bury them. The BLM has hired blackwater mercenaries to snipe anyone who “does not belong” there.

Bundy Ranch comments:

“Feds say it will cost 3 million dollars to round up the cattle and dispose of them” My response:

I have the solution to the problem. Hire a bunch of cattle rustlers to go in there and steal all the cattle. They will GLADLY do it for FREE. Then just give the Bundy’s the “three million” for their grief.

“Feds say this is being done to save the desert tortoise” My response: I don’t think cows eat turtles. If the cows were devastating competition for them, they would have been gone in the 1800′s

About the “free speech” zone: Has tyranny gone so far that it even has to control where people shout to the desert wind? Obviously so, which is why that same tyranny thinks cows threaten turtles now. Or is it that the land those cows graze on is in fact being sold to China? Maybe Warren Buffet wants it. Who knows. But turtles rule. And they will taste good in China.

UPDATE: The cattle are not being killed and buried, they are in fact being taken by BLM supported cattle rustlers, as I said would be common sense. These rustlers have been given brand new trucks and trailers to do it, and they are selling the cattle at auction FOR PROFIT. THEY ARE SELLING THEM AT AUCTION, THE SAME WAY THE BUNDY FAMILY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A LIVING. So HOW DO YOU GET A $3 MILLION LOSS OUT OF STEALING A FORTUNE IN CATTLE AND SELLING IT? GOOD QUESTION, THE ONLY ANSWER TO WHICH IS OBVIOUS OUT OF CONTROL CORRUPTION.

The area is 600,000 acres. That is HUGE. And if you get out of your car on any of the roads you are immediately arrested and taken to federal prison, for committing a federal crime. Infrared sensors are in place all throughout the desert now, and there are numerous private corporate “blackwater” snipers on the hills. No one has been shot yet, but the state is certainly set for that.

Rising up peacefully is NOT the answer. You cannot peacefully remove any tyranny, tyranny laughs at people who think “peace” can bring about change in a system enforced by state sponsored violence. They brought the guns to the party FIRST.

-Original post- After looking over some of the videos and seeing what is going on out in Nevada, I firmly believe this is no hoax.

Citing illegal land usage, the BLM moved in on a ranch which has been in place since the wild west days, and had paid cattle rustlers go in and steal the cattle. Some of the cattle were also killed and buried with backhoes. The only difference between this and Waco is that at Waco people were actually targeted and killed, and with the Bundy ranch, a family legacy was destroyed. Both were grave rights violations.

I believe that what happened with the Bundy ranch was the result of continuous encroaching regulations and arrogance of the government, and that the Bundy family actually still had a truthful right to continue using the land under the law. Most likely the BLM was given unlawful orders to destroy the ranch and it’s cattle and they followed through on them. I am still looking into this story and will post updates. I have been to many protests, and know the CIA ones from the real ones. The video Farganne posted was of a real one, I have no idea why he doubts it.

This is a mirror image of the destruction of the hog farmers in Michigan, where a totally out of control government rolls around in arrogance like the pigs they killed will roll in _____

In God we trust

Chief Judge Robert C. Jones of the Federal District Court of Nevada issued a blistering decision that charged officials of the BLM and other agencies with malicious and criminal conduct,

Filed under: My Posts — Tags: , , , , , , — thearizonasentinel @ 2:46 pm

Please read the new american article

Most Americans do not have a clue how Americans living in western states have been run off their land over the past thirty plus years by Federal Government agencies such as the BLM, Fish and Wildlife, including all so-called environmental agencies working for the government to take away private property.

THIS IS A MEDIA LIE… According to coverage one is likely to see from the Establishment media, the show of force is necessary to remove Cliven Bundy’s cattle from “public lands” where they are, allegedly, damaging the “fragile” habitat of the protected desert tortoise. That is the story that is being dispensed by the BLM and retailed in most media accounts. Reason for my forwarding a link so people can learn the truth about the Nevada Ranch Family (See link below following quotes taken from article).

Cliven Bundy (shown) and his family, friends and neighbors, as well as some legal scholars, tell a different story. According to Bundy, whose family has been ranching in the area since the 1800s, the BLM’s armed invasion and occupation of Nevada has nothing to do with protecting the tortoise and everything to do with running him off the land, as it has already done to all of the other ranchers in Clark County. He notes that more than 50 other ranchers have been bankrupted, intimidated, and forced to give up their land and legal property rights. He is, he points out, “the last man standing”; and now that generations of ranching families have been driven out, federal officials have dropped the pretense that it is all about saving the “endangered” tortoise and have actually been killing the reptiles by the hundreds.

Yes, that is true; as reported by the liberal Huffington Post and other media outlets last year, the BLM began “euthanizing” the tortoises , claiming the agency did not have sufficient funds in its budget to manage the habitat. How then, critics point out, can the BLM justify the $1 million or more that it will spend rounding up the Bundy family’s cattle. And if the tortoise habitat is so precious and sensitive that the sparse cattle population — which had co-existed with the turtles for generations — had to be removed, why has the BLM been selling the former ranch land to developers?

As California State University criminology professor Jason Kissner pointed out in a column for American Thinker yesterday, it is the Obama administration’s BLM and Attorney General Eric Holder that are engaged in “brazen lawlessness.” Federal officials are exploiting the fact that few Americans understand the legal complexities of the “split estate,” “prior appropriation doctrine,” and other principles governing water rights, grazing rights, and other land use/property rights on “public” and private lands, that are different in the arid West than in other parts of the country.

The current battle between the Bundys and the Feds is a replay of the decades-long confrontation between various federal agencies and the late Wayne Hage, the Nevada rancher/liberty activist/scholar who won multiple court victories and landmark decisions against federal overreach. In an interview with The New American in 2002, Hage explained the important legal distinctions that govern property rights in the West, particularly as they apply to so-called public lands.

For years, the Hage family had been subjected to threats, intimidation, and fines, and — like the Bundys — had their cattle illegally confiscated by federal agents. And, as with the Bundys, the Hages were portrayed by the Feds and their compliant media shills as scofflaws and environmental criminals who deserved to be thrown into the slammer. Last year, as we reported, a federal court once again vindicated the Hages, although by that time Wayne Hage and his wife, former Congresswoman Helen Chenoweth-Hage, had both passed away six years earlier.

Chief Judge Robert C. Jones of the Federal District Court of Nevada issued a blistering decision that charged officials of the BLM and other agencies with malicious and criminal conduct, and actually engaging in a decades-long “conspiracy” against the Hages. The Federal Government’s actions were so egregious as to “shock the conscience of the Court.”

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/18030-last-man-standing-nevada-ranch-family-in-fedgov-face-off?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_campaign=f70b737b8b-The_Editors_Top_Picks_3_12_143_12_2014&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8ca494f2d2-f70b737b8b-289780765

A link at bottom of article pays a lovely tribute to one of my two favorite members of the US Congress—former congressman Helen Chenoweth-Hage. Helen is the only honest woman of integrity to ever serve in the US Congress. Like Rep. Ron Paul, Rep. Helen Chenoweth took her oath seriously and defended the US Constitution one-hundred percent. Recommend reading: Remembering a champion: Helen Chenoweth-Hage

more:

FAA issues “No Fly Zone” over Bundy Ranch area..

http://weaselzippers.us/182556-faa-issues-no-fly-zone-over-bundy-ranch-area/

Bigger than Bundy Ranch – The Feds are coming after our lands..setting precedence..

http://clashdaily.com/2014/04/bigger-cliven-bundy-nv-stand-feds-coming-lands-setting-precedence-bundy/

Harry Reid behind Bureau of Land Management land grab of Bundy Ranch..

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

Video – After story breaks on Reid/Chinese connection to land grab, BLM backs off..

http://www.infowars.com/hours-after-infowars-breaks-sen-reidchinese-connection-to-land-grab-blm-backs-down/

Article V Con Con is irrelevant..

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin263.htm

Prophecy?

The government sold the Chicoms Nevada land..
Harry Reid’s Son Representing Chinese Solar Panel Plant in $5 Billion Nevada Deal..

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/04/Harry-Reid-s-Son-Representing-Chinese-Solar-Panel-Plant-In-5-Billion-Nevada-Deal

Here it is folks , its not about a turtle, its about the Senate Criminal Harry Reid.

Filed under: My Posts — Tags: — thearizonasentinel @ 2:12 pm

Freedom One, Tyranny Zero. BLM is backing off!!!

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-cliven-bundy-to-meet-with-clark-co-sheriff/ Cattle will be returned to Bundy, and Grazing will continue.

LAS VEGAS — The Bureau of Land Management has announced it will stop the roundup of cattle owned by rancher Cliven Bundy.

    The BLM says the animals have been illegally grazing on public lands for 20 years

. This is a false statement.

The BLM made the announcement Saturday morning, a week after rangers started gathering the animals from land near Gold Butte.

The agency says it is concerned about the safety of its employees and the public. Earlier this week, BLM officers and supporters of the Bundy family were involved in a scuffle. Cliven Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, was tased twice by federal agents. Another woman said she was thrown to the ground by an officer.

With more Bundy supporters pouring in from around the country, safety concerns began to grow.

The I-Team has learned the deal to end the gather was brokered by Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie.

According to sources, the BLM wants to proceed with the sale of the cattle already gathered during the roundup but is reportedly willing to share the revenue from the sale with Bundy.

Sheriff Gillespie has been negotiating with Bundy behind the scenes for months reached a tentative agreement Friday night, though Bundy insisted the sheriff come to his ranch to finalize the arrangement face-to-face.

The two men meet Saturday to discuss the agreement prior to a public announcement.

The agency director also asked that everyone involved in the dispute remain peaceful and law-abiding.

8 News NOW is following this developing story and will update it online as more information becomes available. 8 News NOW has a news crew in Bunkerville who will have a live report at 6 p.m.

April 11, 2014

The Truth by Sherri Bundy Cox , Mr Cliven Bundys Daughter!!! Is there a Harry Reid Connection

Governor Sandavol, Its time you removed the Blm and the forest service from the state of Nevada. These federal agencies are criminal enterprises. Lock and Load your Constitutions boys.
Required Reading. Our problem is that Americans do not understand what has been happening in the west , particularly west of the 100 meridian for over 100 years . The best way to have a solid understanding is to read the following books. Amazon has the Hage Book. When I started pushing this book the price on amazon was 10.00. The interest has exploded now its $65 but worth every penny!!! Information is priceless!
First “Storm over Range Lands” by Wayne Hage, a Nevada Rancher that lost his life fighting the federal government abuse of power. Ive met Ramona Hage Morrison , Waynes daughter and consider her a friend. And “Trouble in a green truck ” by Charlie McCarty from reserve New Mexico a rancher that worked for the forest service. Ive met Charlie . Call 1 800788 7654 or write Dorrance Publishing Co,,. Inc. 701 Smithfield ST Pittsburgh,Penn 15222 to order Charlies book, or stop by the hardware store in Reserve NM.
Also there is “Liberty and Justice for All (what a joke), by Hugh McKeen a must read. Published by Bookstand Publishing, Morgan Hill,CA 95037, you can order the book thru them.

Folks , information, the truth, is power. Tomorrow I will be headed for Clark County to support the fight against the federal government. I will be armed and loaded with my weapon, “The Constitution of the United States of America” the most powerful weapon we have!!

Now:
Mr Bundy’s daughter wrote….
From the daughter of Mr. Cliven Bundy…..the rancher in Nevada……

SHIREE BUNDY COX: I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on
this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it.
There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa
bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around
there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my
dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and
also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their
cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to
the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to
keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management.
They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their
ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to
pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the
ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they
were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they
began using these money’s against the ranchers. They bought all the rest
of the ranchers in the area out with they’re own grazing fees. When they
offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired
them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but,
tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So
my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements
with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM
was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn’t
work, they used the indangered species card. You’ve already heard about
the desert tortis. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the
threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for
all these years. Now their desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand
inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing
at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the
United States of America. Now you may be saying,” how sad, but what does
this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you. They will get rid of
Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and
then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again.
Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being
stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him.
Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has
been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM
even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them
and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s
signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which
is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the
Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid
off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada
brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?
Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks”.”

From a trusted source:

“The excuse of the endangered tortoises is entirely bogus. Articles
from last August show that they were running out of funds at the
‘sanctuary’ so they were going to kill all the tortoises in their
“care”. Imagine, some of those live 100 years or more in the desert
without interference by man. And now mankind tries to “save” them and
kills them instead! The environmentalists should be going against the
BLM for that slaughter! Tortoises have nothing at all to do with
this raid on the rancher.”

“HAH! I made a comment this morning, wondering what it was they wanted
the land for. Remember the guy in Ventura County who was killed for
the bogus allegations he had MJ growing on his acreage? DEA wanted
the land!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Donald_P._Scott

Is there a link yet on Reid’s connection?” And what is Harry Reids connection: http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

April 6, 2014

The Elimination of Property Taxes does not require an increase in Sales Taxes.

Filed under: My Posts — thearizonasentinel @ 8:44 pm

Bruce.. i am on the mailing list of Kelleigh Nelson.. got this from her list..
hope you dont mind if i forward this emaikl to her..

Rich
—– Original Message —–
From: Arizonasentinel@aol.com
To: ricseib@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Eliminate Property Taxes for higher Sales Tax – Not Necessary!!!!!!!!!!!

No one should be paying property taxes. As a candidate for Governor of Arizona I vowed to eliminate property taxes in Arizona. And there is no reason to raise sales taxes. All states and counties have CAFR accounts, hidden from taxpayers. We should not be renting our homes and property from the teachers unions.

In addition in Arizona and I suggest the other states as well, there has never been any legislation authorizing the counties to send tax bills unsigned /to property owners.

We have no contract with the Corporate County Governments to send them levis on our property. See attachment.

There is a ranch somewhere in Texas that has an allodial title and is not on the tax rolls. Not aware of its location.

Public education is a joke at best. If counties and states want to fund public education and these so called units of higher learning, let the counties pay for them out of existing revenues. We do not need to be funding new buildings with pictures on the walls, new trucks and cars for employees, healthcare certainly isnt needed now with the ACA, :) Retirements, and the list goes on. I and millions like me are sick of civil service being a gold mine to retirement.
I retired almost twenty years ago , because I was sick and tired of sending money to the same people that were making my personal and professonal life miserable. Screw em, End Property Taxes NOW. Demand that your property be removed from the tax rolls. File claims on their bonds, sue the bastards.

You may forward the attached doc as you wish. There is no constitutional justification for property taxes,.

Bruce

In a message dated 4/4/2014 6:50:52 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ricseib@comcast.net writes:
Scroll down for Pat’s comments, then read the story

THANKS TO PAT HUFF WE HAVE FIRST INKLING OF COLLAPSE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION:

HERE WE GO DISMANTLING OUR EDUCATION FUNDING SYSTEM!

ENTER STATE FUNDING OF INDIVIDUAL CHILD – IEPs – (TAXFUNDED SCHOOL CHOICE/CHARTERS FOR WORKFORCE TRAINING)

“Glenn Hegar promised to eliminate the property tax.”
Mike Collier on Tuesday, March 18th, 2014 in a campaign email blast

Comptroller candidate Glenn Hegar favors ending property taxes, didn’t promise he’d do it
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State Sen. Glenn Hegar, running for comptroller, talks about getting rid of property taxes at the Jan. 6, 2014, meeting of Longview tea party group We the People.
The Democratic nominee for Texas comptroller says the Republican nominee, state Sen. Glenn Hegar of Katy, made a taxing promise.

Mike Collier of Houston said in a March 18, 2014, email blast, “Glenn Hegar promised to eliminate the property tax,” a step Collier said would trigger the state’s “most outrageous tax increase” ever.

Hegar’s alternative to the property tax, Collier wrote, would require sales taxes “to be at least 20 percent — and possibly as high as 25 percent” to pay for local needs such as “schools and county roads … water and sewage treatment” and more.

For this article, we’re setting aside what happens should property taxes go away.

But did Hegar promise to kill property taxes?

Broadly, no single official including the comptroller can abolish property taxes, which are levied by cities, counties, school districts and other taxing units. Abolition would take legislation passed into law and maybe a voter-adopted amendment to the Texas Constitution.

Republicans including Debra Medina and Raul Torres, among comptroller candidates defeated by Hegar in the 2014 primary, have voiced support for getting rid of property taxes; Medina pitched replacing property taxes with expanded sales taxes as far back as her 2010 gubernatorial bid.

In fact, the Texas GOP party platform, adopted at the party’s 2012 convention, says, “We encourage abolishing property taxes (and) shifting the tax burden to a consumption-based tax,” as Dale Craymer, president of the business-oriented Texas Taxpayers and Research Association, noted in an email exchange with us.

As we embarked on this fact check, we noticed Hegar’s campaign website doesn’t discuss property taxes. We also asked for an interview with Hegar about any promise to wipe out property taxes; campaign manager David White told us by email that Hegar wasn’t available on the couple days we inquired. White also said he was unaware of Hegar directly promising to eliminate property taxes.

White emailed us an excerpt from Hegar’s Dec. 31, 2013, response to a questionnaire from the Dallas Morning News in which Hegar referred to “an antiquated system of property tax collection. While I prefer a shift to more of a consumption-based tax system, (I) know that we are many years away from being able to implement such.”

Collier spokesman Jason Stanford, asked for evidence of such a Hegar promise, emailed us Hegar’s Jan. 20, 2014, answers to a Collin County Conservatives questionnaire and a Feb. 5, 2014, Killeen Daily Herald/Temple Daily Telegram news story on GOP comptroller candidates’ Feb. 4, 2014, debate in Salado.

Neither showed Hegar promising to abolish property taxes, but both described his support for gradually reaching that goal. “I support a shift from the property tax toward a consumption tax system. I believe a consumption tax is the fairest, most transparent tax system,” Hegar wrote in the questionnaire. (Consumption taxes are those levied when a person spends money on a product or service.) According to the news story on the Salado debate, Hegar, Medina and Torres all “said they were in favor of completely phasing out property taxes.”

Stanford also pointed us to a video clip the Collier campaign posted online, which it also began using in a video ad that debuted April 1, that comes from the Jan. 6, 2014, meeting of a Longview tea party group.

Collier’s website links to a longer video recording of the event, posted to YouTube by the Longview group. Here’s our transcript of two property-tax answers from Hegar, bolding the words Collier included in his video ad:

Audience member: I would just like to know your thoughts on ending the property tax and replacing it with something along the lines of a consumption tax or something, so we can finally own our property?

Hegar: That — well, you took the words with your last statement: so you can own your property. Because you really don’t. The government owns it. The question is how much do you pay rent. I tell you, I don’t like the property tax, never have. I think we should replace it. The best thing to replace it with is a consumption-type tax, sales tax per se. I was up — I was talking to somebody the other day about it, and the question is, is what would that number be. Oh, I know what it was: I got it on a questionnaire, one of the tea party groups. And they said, ‘Well, what steps do you take?’ and I said, ‘Steps? You just do it.’

That’s the only way you get there. You know, I know the votes have not been in the Legislature a few sessions ago in order to try to get rid of it. But the fact is as comptroller, I have said numerous times — or, running as — that is the only fair way. Because the question is, who pays? Everybody pays. And you actually, when you buy that loaf of bread or whatever be it, you pay the tax and guess what? You get to walk away with the bread. You don’t have to bring the last four loaves back. And that’s kind of what it is with your property. …

Different audience member: … There’s a lot of people my age that aren’t going to own property any time soon, so what kind of — what do you have to say to them? That they have to pay, we have to pay higher taxes on the things we consume? But we don’t own property.

Hegar: Well to me, it’s still a fairness, I mean you’re, you’re here in Texas and so the fact is is you pay sales tax today. You pay a portion of the tax. But you may not pay all of it, and so should we favor one set of folks because they may not own property versus other people? No, the fact is, is the landowners, if you look at local property, as in a school district, they’re paying half of it. Well, why shouldn’t it be distributed among everybody and not just based only on the landowners? And you treat all landowners the same; you don’t pick and choose winners and losers. (Applause.) I mean I — I just think — and the reason I said earlier is, you know, business, people, you fill in, Texans should succeed on their own merits and you shouldn’t be picking winners and losers, and that winners and losers, if that means that younger people because they don’t own their home, then that puts a greater burden on them, and compare the current system, maybe it does, but it’s fair. That’d be my personal opinion.

Stanford told us that by using the phrase “Just do it,” Hegar “may not have said the words ‘I promise,’ but he explained how he would” eliminate property taxes.

Another tea party video the Collier campaign is publicizing shows Hegar both describing obstacles and spelling out the role he would take. Collier says on his website the video shows Hegar proposing a sales tax rate of up to 18.5 percent to cover cuts in property taxes.

In the full interview, posted online Dec. 31, 2013, by the Montgomery County Tea Party, Hegar said that in replacing the property tax with a sales tax, “the hardest question to answer for the Legislature that puts it into place, No. 1, is obviously getting the votes to do it.” After that, “then the biggest question is, is that one (tax) that you broaden the base, as in what is taxable for consumption, or is it the rate? And that’s where the numbers get really hard,” he said. “Maybe you’ve heard wild percentages.”

Starting with the existing state sales tax of 6.25 percent plus local sales tax of up to 2 percent, Hegar said, “does that go up 3 percent, 18 percent? Up to 18.5 percent, some numbers have been out. But the question is how wide and how broad is that. And that’s where the Legislature has seemed to get caught up.”

Asked how the comptroller could influence legislators, Hegar told the tea-party group, “I think the comptroller’s role should use more of what’s called a dynamic fiscal note,” a type of report that he said can be used to show the opportunities presented by a tax cut, such as eliminating property taxes, rather than only presenting its negative effect on state revenues. The note is “something that I would definitely utilize,” he said.

Our ruling

Collier said, “Glenn Hegar promised to eliminate the property tax.”

Hegar has said that as comptroller, he would “definitely” use a dynamic fiscal note to encourage the policy change, but he also has spoken about the difficulties of reaching an approach that wins legislative favor. We rate Collier’s statement as False.

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Published: Thursday, April 3rd, 2014 at 2:00 p.m.

Subjects: State Budget, State Finances, Taxes

Sources:

Mike Collier email blast, March 18, 2014

Email interview, excerpted, with David White, campaign manager, Glenn Hegar campaign, March 21-31, 2014

Email interview, excerpted, with Dale Craymer, president, Texas Taxpayers and Research Association, March 27, 2014

Email interview, excerpted, with Jason Stanford, spokesman, Collier campaign, March 21-28, 2014

Hegar answers to Collin County Conservatives questionnaire, Jan. 20, 2014

Killeen Daily Herald/Temple Daily Telegram FME News Service news story, “GOP comptroller candidates want to end property tax,” Feb. 5, 2014

Telephone interview with Alex Wukman, reporter, FME News Service, March 21, 2014

T-SPAN video of GOP comptroller candidates debate, Salado, Feb. 4, 2014

Collier campaign video, “Glenn Hegar calls for sales tax to replace property tax,” March 19, 2014

Collier campaign video ad, April 1, 2014

Video of Hegar speaking to We the People, Longview, Jan. 6, 2014

Hegar interview video, “Glenn Hager Part 1 of 2 by Montgomery County Tea Party, Texas,” Dec. 31, 2013

Written by: Sue Owen
Researched by: Sue Owen
Edited by: W. Gardner Selby

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FROM PAT HUFF

Well, Charlotte, remember from my talk at the conference when I mentioned vouchers to be introduced through removal of the property tax for a higher sales tax? It’s being introduced by a Republican candidate for Comptroller. He won the primary and now will face off against the Democrat candidate in November. We are seeing television adds about it now. He wants to abolish the property tax under the guise of “you should be able to truly own your property”. Not a word about how this will kill school districts, plus take away their taxing authority which is one of the principal ways to fight the voucher program. Dan Patrick the Republican front runner for Lt. Governor and an avid proponent of vouchers and school choice, is in favor of the increased sales tax for elimination of property taxes, as well. Such deception….

Pat

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2014/apr/03/mike-collier/comptroller-candidate-glenn-hegar-favors-ending-pr/

April 5, 2014

Teds, Danger of the Single Story

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